tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post9222503963816603121..comments2023-10-21T03:07:18.017-05:00Comments on Enclave: Contentious community meeting held in Whites CreekS-townMikehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05948307051485318061noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-89557809481173097352014-02-24T09:29:29.644-06:002014-02-24T09:29:29.644-06:00To quesiton whether there is "anything good&q...To quesiton whether there is "anything good" about a situation like this is fatuous.<br /><br />People bought homes for market value; homes that are a step-up from starter homes. Homes that are within commuting distance to downtown Nashville. <br /><br />You may not believe that the homes in question are a net positive. You may believe Antioch is already awash in cookie-cutter siding-clad homes with no trees, too many cul-de-sacs, and too much traffic. But, someone lives there and that someone is probably pretty grateful for the house s/he now owns.<br /><br />Note that I am not saying that pushback on developers is unwarranted, or that communities shouldn't have a say in their own future direction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-15900492401494851852014-02-21T20:34:17.725-06:002014-02-21T20:34:17.725-06:00Point taken. If I bought the highest priced home i...Point taken. If I bought the highest priced home in an area, I would certainly be upset to see a significantly lower priced home built next to me. If there is anything good about this situation, I don't see it. It brought down that man's investment in his home. How is that good?<br />Did Ole south care? Obviously NOT & they don't care about our community either. They will make their money and be gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-16666867820564503862014-02-21T20:21:56.021-06:002014-02-21T20:21:56.021-06:00Drive time is about 15 min.to Green Hills/vandy ar...Drive time is about 15 min.to Green Hills/vandy area. I looked up the info on the antioch homes and I found that originally Apple Valley had 143 homes of which only 3 were lower than aprox 200K. 9 were aprox $300K and the remaining homes were mostly between 250K-280K ( mixed prices). Anyway it is a good neighborhood. Ole south did come in later 2012-13 and built 9 homes ( at least) all at or LOWER than the aprox $200K mark. They WERE AND STILL ARE the lowest priced homes in the neighborhood. That is a fact. That is accurate. Get any real estate agent to look that up for you if you want exact. Now, this in JUST the info on the homes that were NOT sold by Ole south outside of real estate. There could have been many more than the 9 I found and probably were. They have their own real estate company so some sales could have been pre- sold and only the remaining ones listed on the MLS market. I don't know. Guess the profit margin is better on the cheaper built homes. <br /> I also looked up the home sales in Whites creek for 2013 and 7 new homes were built & sold for $269,900.00-299,900.00 on 708 Hardy Court. There is one on the market right now on Hardy ct. for $269,900.00. This is what she was referring to in the meeting. Ole south will be building homes barely, maybe at the $200K mark bringing DOWN the area sales. That does not concern me as much as the DENSITY. They will be putting in "cluster" homes on 1/7th of an acre! 1/7th! because of the unusable land and roads,retention pond, etc. These homes will literally be on top of one another. This in an area of farms, wildlife,creeks, trees, farm animals,homes with acreage,etc. <br />It's just wrong. Why? Why would they want yet ANOTHER sub division where they are not already? Why not just go build where there is already density and sub-divisions? Why destroy all those trees and green space in an area that does not have that type of density ? The remaining large acreage that is for sale and connects to that parcel is zoned the same meaning that an additional 400-500 homes could ( no scratch that) WILL be built in the future. Once the door is open it's all over for our historical, <br />rural, pristine, beautiful,quiet,quaint community & no one cares but us....SadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-4851046228680664662014-02-21T13:53:27.250-06:002014-02-21T13:53:27.250-06:00and now they live next door to a $186,000 Ole Sout...and now they live next door to a $186,000 Ole South home<br /><br />The homes Ole South built in Apple Valley did not cause the value of the existing homes to decrease, but they will keep the value from ever rising again.<br />Builders like Ole South made Antioch what it is today. It is disappointing that the Planning Commission is considering allowing the same thing to happen in another part of the county.mike pedennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-23818754303931149402014-02-21T11:09:26.141-06:002014-02-21T11:09:26.141-06:00What is the drive time from the proposed new homes...What is the drive time from the proposed new homes to, say, Vanderbilt or Green Hills Mall? What are the values of the homes in nearby developments?<br /><br />I am the anon disputing that there's a neighborhood of $300,000 homes in Antioch that Ole South is devaluing. <br /><br />I am generally sympathetic to the views expressed here regarding the desire for current residents to take an active role in new developements. I am really sympathetic to the desire to keep open green space. And, I think it is a shame that are is zoned for 1/4-acre lots. <br /><br />But - I don't think it does any good to ignore facts or mislead. <br /><br />I asked the two questions at the beginning becuase of your last couple sentences. Better homes alone not sufficient to attract better buyers.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-80246276196368226952014-02-21T09:04:11.844-06:002014-02-21T09:04:11.844-06:00I don't understand why we cannot try to bring ...I don't understand why we cannot try to bring our beautiful area up in quality. Portions of this area have been brought down for whatever reason in the past. We need to turn this around before it is too late. The density is what concerns me most. Ole South has met the requirements of the planning commission so we may as well all shut up and go home. It is futile and they will not be stopped. They have the blessing of the planning commission. What we need to do now is focus on getting any future development such as this halted NOW. We need to get the remainder of the land rezoned and/or a plan that limits further density in this rural area. If something is not changed we will see<br />the rest of that land developed with 400-500 homes on it. This will<br />take us from the verge of seeing our community improve and the quality of homes and our life move up with Fontanel & the group of people associated with them to seeing our neighborhood slide further towards the brick church pike area with drugs, crime, burgularies,dumping & gangs. We are on the edge and this community could go either way. We all know density (unless controlled by pricing) brings with it more crime. I am not expecting a Brentwood but good homes built on more than a postage stamp of land will bring our quality of life up & our property values. Better homes attract better buyers, better protection & a better community. Which is it to be?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-85576071981647669952014-02-21T08:45:13.025-06:002014-02-21T08:45:13.025-06:00"full of existing $300,000 homes" were y..."full of existing $300,000 homes" were your words, and "current value" are mine.<br /><br />No one would have pay $300,000 for that house in 2013.<br /><br />What you've shown is that hte the Patels bought the most expensive house in the neighborhood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-39749742755394199642014-02-21T00:23:59.094-06:002014-02-21T00:23:59.094-06:00House built in 2013 by Ole South Builders at 7204 ...House built in 2013 by Ole South Builders at 7204 Smokey Hill Rd in Apple Valley<br /><br />Parcel ID 182120A14800CO<br />Owner JACKSON, JANICE BRYANT & LARRY WAYNE<br />Acquired Date 5/24/2013<br />Sale Price $186,000<br />Owner Document DB-20130604 0056375<br /><br />Mailing Address 7204 SMOKEY HILL RD<br />Mailing City ANTIOCH<br />Mailing State TN<br />Mailing Zipcode 37013<br />Description LOT 338 APPLE VALLEY PH 6 SEC 6<br /><br />House next door built in 2008 – not by Ole South Builders at 7206 Smokey Hill Rd in Apple Valley<br /><br />Parcel ID 182120A14900CO<br />Owner PATEL, SATISH & CHAMPABEN S.<br />Acquired Date 4/1/2008<br />Sale Price $340,900<br />Owner Document DB-20080403 0033903<br /><br />Mailing Address 7208 SMOKEY HILL RD<br />Mailing City CANE RIDGE<br />Mailing State TN<br />Mailing Zipcode 37013<br />Description LOT 339 APPLE VALLEY PH 6 SEC 6<br /><br />mike pedennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-88481183154478459122014-02-20T22:54:08.960-06:002014-02-20T22:54:08.960-06:00Mean't to say "Otherwise beautiful Northe...Mean't to say "Otherwise beautiful Northeast Davidson County is already blighted with the occasional out of place looking McMansion on a hill." I agree it is a jewel and would like to see it remain that way. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-70925607772293321872014-02-20T17:59:57.102-06:002014-02-20T17:59:57.102-06:00It is known that Hunt has taken a considerable amo...It is known that Hunt has taken a considerable amount of money from developers. He has plans to run for council-at-large so he can continue to sell out the rest of Nashville. He never responds to community emails and disconnected his phone when the WOMAN tried to call and complain about loud music coming from Fontanel. He is an absolute idiot and wants nothing more than to boost his own ego and fatten his wallet. We need to recall him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-50183590576135031802014-02-20T13:10:02.572-06:002014-02-20T13:10:02.572-06:00Realtracs shows 3 houses in the Apple Valley subdi...Realtracs shows 3 houses in the Apple Valley subdivision for sale. Most expensive is $275k. There are 44 houses for sale in Cane Ridge: 2 are priced over $300,000. One of those is on 6 acres.<br /><br />Zillow shows dozens of houses spread from $180,000 to $280,000.<br /><br />http://www.zillow.com/homes/applejack-court,-nashville,-tn_rb/#/homes/for_sale/Nashville-TN-37013/74101_rid/36.005418,-86.630864,36.002315,-86.634399_rect/17_zm/1_fr/<br /><br /><br />Those may have been $250,000 to $300,000 houses 2005 - 2007. <br /><br />That subdivision is in no way full of $300,000 homes and I doubt it ever was, except maybe at the top of the real estate bubble. <br /><br />If one wants to suggest that is was full of $300,000 homes prior to Ole South coming in (and post-housing crisis), I'd like to see the evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-80164677792061416892014-02-20T12:25:06.121-06:002014-02-20T12:25:06.121-06:00After last night's meeting, we are disheartene...After last night's meeting, we are disheartened at the lack of respect from developers and seeming lack of government support for a residents-led development plan for Whites Creek. A jewel in Davidson County, Whites Creek has tremendous potential as an agriculture-arts based community that would add value to both local residents and tourists visiting Nashville. We implore politicians to look at the big picture and support the community's vision instead of short-sighted development. Bell's Bend residents rallied and stopped development that would change the character of that area. I hope the residents of White's Creek can do the same. Walter Hunt and members of the planning commission, we need your help!<br />Linda Wrighthttp://www.cedarwoodweddings.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-8183404213347903402014-02-20T06:48:54.439-06:002014-02-20T06:48:54.439-06:00Last year Ole South Builders purchased all remaini...Last year Ole South Builders purchased all remaining lots in the Apple Valley Subdivision in Antioch, and proceeded to build $200,000 homes in a subdivision full of existing $300,000 homes. Welcome to Antioch, Whites Creek.mike pedennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-27781841241722812332014-02-20T02:17:30.190-06:002014-02-20T02:17:30.190-06:00Those are some fugly houses. Why do people continu...Those are some fugly houses. Why do people continue to buy this plastic cookie cutter cr@p? Otherwise Northeast Davidson County is already blighted with the occasional out of place looking McMansion on a hill. You want to see some absymal "architecture" take a look at a few gems up there. I can't believe the continued popularity of these out of scale monuments to mediocracy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-42182988527034872382014-02-19T22:37:07.588-06:002014-02-19T22:37:07.588-06:00The deck has been stacked at the Planning Commissi...The deck has been stacked at the Planning Commission. Walter Hunt was placed there for a reason. First the baseball park, then hand over Whites Creek to developers. The Planning Commission has added Ms. Blackshears, who if I am not mistaken is sister-in-law to Mr. Dalton on the commission. Isn't Dalton married to Judge Angie Blackshears Dalton? <br /><br />As for Tom White. Sometimes he thinks he is the mayor, others the chair of the Planning Commission. He tries to intimidate citizens, especially if they are new to the process. I'd advise the citizens of Whites Creek to pack the Planning Commission meeting. They don't all have to speak, just raise their hand. Send emails or letters to the commissioners. And if CM Hunt will not support the citizens in a plan update, recall him. Remind him who he is being paid to represent!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com