tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post116421612991855207..comments2023-10-21T03:07:18.017-05:00Comments on Enclave: When In RomeS-townMikehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05948307051485318061noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-1164235811728982992006-11-22T16:50:00.000-06:002006-11-22T16:50:00.000-06:00So, Romanized Barbarians like Theodoric the Great ...So, Romanized Barbarians like Theodoric the Great who defended the Roman form in the Italian region after 476 did not see themselves as inheritors of Rome as well?<BR/><BR/>I've already acknowledged the date of the Ottoman conquest. The real question is whether a people can be called something simply because they say so. What's fair for the Byzantines seems fair for the Barbarians.S-townMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05948307051485318061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10635442.post-1164229664089309642006-11-22T15:07:00.000-06:002006-11-22T15:07:00.000-06:00Mr. Mark:From Wikipedia: "By 610, the Classical Ro...Mr. Mark:<BR/><BR/>From Wikipedia: "By 610, the Classical Roman Empire had fallen into the rule of the Greeks and evolved into what modern historians now call the Middle Age Byzantine Empire, although the Empire was never called that way by its contemporaries (rather it was called Romania or Basileia Romaion). The Byzantines continued to call themselves Romans until their fall to Ottoman Turks in 1453."<BR/><BR/>But the Roman state ended in 610. Does calling oneself Roman qualify one to be Roman? If the Romanized Barbarians can't call themselves Romans after 476, then neither can the Byzantines after 610.<BR/><BR/>I stand qualified on the issue of when the Empire ended; corrected on the date of Ottoman conquest of the Byzantines, which was indeed 1453.S-townMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05948307051485318061noreply@blogger.com